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  1. 5 points
    I was in the bathroom taking a dump the other day at the capitol. I overhead 2 senators talking about how Amazon was going to buy the Canes move them to Connecticut, **nd the local budget so Hartford won't go bankrupt and then pay for 90% of the remolded XL center robert kraft style. All the stars are lining up!
  2. 4 points
    So let me see if I have this straight...everybody on this board that has done nothing but complain about not hearing anything in the media about a possible move (even a temporary one) is now going to complain that Francesa's sources aren't legit????? Really? It's nice to be mentioned...and I do believe it is a possibility that the Isles could move here on a short term basis...but it would be better...if Belmont went to the soccer team and the Isles moved here permanently. That said, if the Islanders come here on a short term basis, I'll go to as many games as I can financially swing, and I would like to believe the rest of you so called Hartford supporters would do the same.
  3. 4 points
    Actually we do. It is called precedent. Odds are that if you and TrueHartfordHockeyFan engage with one another in a thread out here then the thread is going to end up being a back and forth between the two of you. And the worst thing is that the back and forth is never just civil debate about subjects. And most of that is your fault, Mark. Because you can't just share your opinion or make a factual point and end it at that. You have to give your opinion or make factual points and also insult people while you do it. You always have to add in an "idiot" or a "moron" or a "imbecile" or a "dip$hit" or a "Fraud" or a "BiggieLite" or some other insult or insulting nickname. Because it isn't just enough for you to share opinions or facts. You also have to insult certain people while you do it. Why? I don't know. Maybe it makes you feel better about yourself. What I do know for fact is that if someone is going to insult someone in threads on this board, it is most likely going to be you doing the insulting. You have proven that is who you are out here and that is what you do out here. And you have proven it over and over and over and over again. There is a way of knowing that. We just have to read your posts.
  4. 4 points
  5. 4 points
    If you really think they're trolls then what is pathetic is you "feeding" them by ALWAYS responding to them. But you will never ignore them because you ALWAYS have to get in last word. It is more important to you to get last word in then it is to ignore them. It is like you have pathological need to "win" an internet flame war. I have news for you. NOBODY "wins" internet flame war. Which is proven over and over and over and over again out here by all of the threads that end up becoming pissing contests. I go away on business for a while. When I come back the same old crap is going on. How surprising.
  6. 3 points
    Yea while this is unlikely it's possible and the credibility doesn't get much better than this and if someone is poo-pooing it then they should just hand in their Hartford Hockey card membership because you are not a Hartford fan. Certainly one can thank it's not happening but the guy said possible and if you can't agree with that you are just projecting anti Hartford sentiment in my opinion. This actually makes sense on why Malloy was chasing Islanders he knew they were screwed
  7. 3 points
    I know this might be difficult for some to understand, but here goes... That TV deal was $300M over the life of the contract, not $300M per year. So, to say the Islanders would lose $300M if they moved to Hartford, even temporarily, is not accurate. Next...Na$$au Coliseum is NOT an option, the Islanders say that, and the NHL says that. It's Barclays...or Belmont...or bust. If people in NY sports radio are even mentioning Hartford, and that came from a guy very much in the know of what's going on with ALL NYC teams, then the possibility, remote as it may be, of them playing in Hartford is there. Is it a long shot? Yes. Should it be completely dismissed? No, at least not at the moment. It is no secret that the people that run Barclays want the Islanders out. It's also no secret the Islanders themselves want out. But, for now, they don't have anyplace in NYC metro area to go. MSG is not an option. Uniondale is not an option, and depending on what happens in Brooklyn, Barclays is probably not a long term option either. So....if Belmont gets awarded to NYCFC...the Islanders will be in a really, really tough spot. Hartford can be a landing place...no conference movement, he!!, no division movement...we would be...and stop me if you've heard this before...a solution to a problem
  8. 3 points
    It isn't that I don't like what you post. Once in a while you post something interesting or you make a good point. Why would I want to block that? The problem is how you post. A lot of times, even when you are making interesting or good points you feel like you have to insult people. So you end up ruining what could be solid contribution to message board. For some reason you get off on calling people "idiot" or "moron" or "dip$hit" or "Fraud" or "imbecile". For some reason you get off on giving people insulting nicknames. Why? Maybe it makes you feel better about yourself. Maybe you put other people down so you feel like you are better than them. What I do know is that over and over and over and over and over and over again that is what you have done out here. If there is some body who is going to insult other people out here it is likely going to be you. That is your reputation out here. You are the internet bully of the Courant Whalers message board. I am not blocking you and I am not Shutting The F*** Up. I am not giving you satisfaction of giving in to your bullying out here. I'm going to call you out every time you act like internet bully. Every time you call people "idiot" and "dip$hit" and "moron" and "fraud" and "imbecile"and other ridiculous nicknames you can come up with, I am going to call you out for it. I mean it is sad that some body your age is acting like a 4th or 5th grade student. Do everyone out here a favor (most of all yourself) and start acting like an adult.
  9. 3 points
    If I was to bet money, it would be Carolina moving back to Hartford for the 2019 season. Etch these words in stone: If Carolina does not move back to Hartford by 2019 or 2020, then the Coyotes and Panthers will be fighting each other to come to Hartford around late 2020 or 2021 Amazon and their upcoming decision will have a huge impact on the **ture of Hartford, there are 900,000 people in Hartford county, about 500,000 of those are adults between the ages of 18-60, and if Amazon does employ 50,000 people in the Hartford area, then it means that 10% of all working adults in the area will be working for Amazon, that is going to have a major impact on the area, don't be surprised if a major league baseball or NBA team also comes if Amazon does arrive.
  10. 3 points
    Hmmm, Last I heard, 238 cities had applied to host Amazon's Eastern HQ. That number includes New York City, Boston, and Philadelphia. But I'm sure none of them have a chance when compared to Enfield...
  11. 3 points
    I never said (a) that hundreds of Whalers fans march in the parade and (b) the booster club has over 100 members. So you might want to try a different argument....and fast. Because if you stay down this road, you'll lose this one. Of course, being a Rags fan, you should be used to losing.
  12. 3 points
    It's not an equal comparison. Far from it, in fact. First, and most importantly, Buffalo and Rochester are two totally different cities. So in that regard in and of itself, your comparison doesn't work. Second, Buffalo's history witht he Sabres was...to be polite...a bit more decorated than the Whalers. I don't recall the Whalers getting to a conference final, never mind a Stanley Cup Final. **rther, Buffalo's NHL history now spans 48 seasons and counting, Hartford's time in the major leagues (either WHA or NHL) was less than half that. Lastly, the 20 years Gernander was involved with hockey in the city, has to count for something. No, he was not the greatest player, nor was he the greatest coach, but he has been the face of Hartford hockey for the last 2 decades, like it or not. Unlike a lot of other personnel that have p*****ed through here over the 20 years the Pack have been in town, Gernander has never badmouthed Hartford, not one time, about anything...be it the paltry attendance, or the horrific media coverage, save for Pete and Jerry, or whatever else. He should be commended for that. 20 years as an athlete/coach in ANY city, is a noteworthy accomplishment. People have been honored for far, far less.
  13. 3 points
    Well, season #1 at Dunkin Donuts Park is officially in the books following last night's 9-3 Yard Goats loss to Portland. For the season, the Goats drew 395,196 fans for 68 dates, an average of just over 5800/game, which should have them finish 3rd in the Eastern League, and in the top 5 or 6 in all of double A baseball. They had 41 sellouts. The previous franchise attendance record, set in New Britain of course, was 368,523, which was set in 2010. You know, it's f unny...all along certain people have been saying that a neutral affiliate with the proper promotion, color scheme, and the connection of the past with the present would do very well at the gate...and watching the Goats fill DDP night after night should be more than enough evidence to prove those people to be 100% correct. In other words...for the haters out there...and you know who you are...we tried to tell you........
  14. 3 points
    Greg is realizing that he is dangerously close to never being allowed to post here again. Identity Theft was his latest attempt. Last warning Gregory Hendrickson.
  15. 2 points
    jimmy forgot the quotes. "professional"
  16. 2 points
  17. 2 points
    Minor league sports are great and all and we should support the teams we have but we should also want more! It’s like being content and embracing that 20 year old Toyota Corolla you got for either your birthday or whatever holiday, yea it’s great and it still runs but you kinda want that newer 2018 model. We have to be thirsty for more rather than content with basic if we truly want to be a home for a professional sports team. Edit: It's just some random person's opinion, it means nothing.
  18. 2 points
    Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not Hendrickson. Just someone else who's here for the entertainment value mostly.
  19. 2 points
    Now he's so bad he's talking to himself. Bruce Gold Part II
  20. 2 points
    So the whalers had about 1,000 more people when the Islanders were self destructing their entire team in the 90s and had no success (just like the whalers). The Long Island Market is much bigger than the greater Hartford market hands down. Add to the fact that the Islanders have a small slip of fans in southern CT and points east of long island that also like the mets. Also the tv revenue from the islanders was much bigger than what the whalers ever could get from a CT deal. One of the reasons the islanders will never leave the nyc market and while the whalers are gone.
  21. 2 points
    And to think WC thought this was a sign of the Whalers returning. LOL
  22. 2 points
    "That is not true at all just for the fact that UConn doesn't even see Hartford as a major part of the college. If they did then they wouldn't care who owned the XL Center and would have signed the 20 year deal everyone was talking about. Also, like I said before, they wouldn't be calling themselves a part of NYC if they were a part of Hartford. Heck, their basketball games are even on a New York tv network instead of being on Connecticut television, like they used to be. You have to pay extra now just to watch their games on television. Yeah, "Hartford and UConn are the same". That's a bunch of bull and you know it." They have a satellite campus in Hartford. You do realize that, right? The state and the university has put millions of dollars into the campus in downtown Hartford, you do realize that, right? The "Part of NYC" thing is a promotional campaign...and their games are on SNY for two reasons...one is because SNY put up the most $$$ to broadcast them, and two...because it gave SNY an inroad to Connecticut. Most of CT didn't even get SNY before they signed the UConn deal. I know Frank is bad...but you're just as bad, if not worse. Try...just once....just one time...to not tool on UConn and Hartford. Just once. Is that too much to ask?
  23. 2 points
  24. 2 points
    And youd Be right. Except about them saying the building is making money remember were all broke. You just don't like the CRDA because you don't want Hartford to do well. But you are right if UConn sold more tickets it would be better a little. As I've said many times the more tickets sold of anything the better for XL. The City owns the XL The Police work for the city The City is broke Yada yada yada
  25. 2 points
    I'd rather go to a Hartford Hockey game with a Hartford Hockey team in Hartford that night, than go to a Springfield Hockey game honoring a Springfield Hockey team in Springfield.
  26. 2 points
    "This actually makes sense on why Malloy was chasing Islanders he knew they were screwed" Despite what most people in CT think, Malloy is not stupid. And I'm sure that isn't the only team he has chased.
  27. 2 points
    Until we know who gets the Belmont deal, it would be very silly to mark anything involving the Islanders as impossible, including a possible move, either temporarily, or permanently, to Hartford.
  28. 2 points
    Mike Francesa has always been an annoying, pompous blowhard. With that said, to trivialize the sources of a guy who was king/co-king of sports radio in NYC for 3 decades is laughable. The anti-Hartford Ranger fans on this board are also laughable. But, on the other hand, maybe they're hoping to avoid Hartford suddenly having the same # of Stanley Cups in one move as the Rags have won in a century. Oh, & that includes decades during which the Rags had only 5 other teams in the NHL.
  29. 2 points
    Really? That's all I do? WRONG. "Whole point in selling XL Center is to get cost of renovating it and maintaining it and running it off of state of CT and city of Hartford books. To do that you need to sell XL Center to private investors. UConn is not private investor. UConn is public university that receives public **nding from state of CT to operate. UConn "buying" and "owning" and "operating" XL Center would just be state of CT owning and operating XL Center. Only difference is that state of CT would be paying to renovate and maintain and run XL Center under UConn's name. And Amazon second headquarters isn't coming to CT. Amazon second headquarters is going someplace like Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Boston, Baltimore, Philly or Chicago." How is a post like that an example of me pointing out what others do? It isn't. And I made that post. So, pointing out what others do isn't all that I do out here.
  30. 2 points
    What you don't get is 1. College hockey isn't a big time draw anywhere 2. For a team that continue to be at the middle to bottom of Hockey East 40 minutes from college students these numbers are not bad at all I love Uconn hockey and will still support the team weather good or bad. But any team who enters a new conference and has a bad record attendance will drop sharply. The Wolf Pack and been going downhill in overall fans per game for the last 20 years. Uconn football gets lower and lower each year as it spirals downhill. Uconn basketball attendance isn't that well at the XL when the teams are not in the top 10 or 25 too. If uconn hockey was a top 25 team with a great record they still wouldn't get more than 5,000 people out. Reason being it is college hockey in a city not in a small town or college town. The product is inferior to minor league hockey so of course attendance won't be high when it's in the same rink as an AHL team that also doesn't draw well. Most college hockey teams are in cities where there is no direct AHL team to challenge them. And even after all that teams in college hockey towns are only getting 5 to 6K total.
  31. 2 points
    Amazon won't be buying Hurricanes, they won't be bringing them to Hartford, they won't be buying the XL Center, and they won't be putting their HQ2 in Connecticut. Get it through your head, it's not happening.
  32. 2 points
    I wasn't 100% convinced you were Frank, but the way you have been obsessively combining the Whalers with Amazon proves without a shadow of a doubt who you are. It's f unny and sad at the same time. What isn't f unny is how incredibly ridiculous this automatic censoring f unction is with this board.
  33. 2 points
    Yeah, who cares, there are 70+ of these Amazon warehouse facilities in the US, **ll of low-skill, low-pay jobs. Big difference between these and a second headquarters. Out of 238+ bids, we'd be lucky to crack their top 100.
  34. 2 points
    First of all, it's a REALLY big "if", when it concerns Amazon coming here. There are about 100 cities trying to get Amazon's Eastern headquarters. I'm glad that Connecticut is in there pitching for it, (I believe 3 CT cities have applied), but the competition is fierce. Connecticut's business climate is aw**l, it will be a hard sell. The cost of doing business here has become a reason for companies to leave, not to come here. And linking the return of the Whalers to getting Amazon is purely wish**l thinking. If there was really a connection, wouldn't Seattle have had an NHL team for a long time now?
  35. 2 points
    You can't discount Houston if the new Rockets/Toyota Center owner is serious about the NHL. There are several franchises up for grabs, as we know. The real question is...is the NHL serious about Houston? And...why wouldn't the NHL want Houston to pony up $500M to expand, as opposed to a relocation?
  36. 2 points
    Yup, I've been saying this, too. Connecticut needs to fix it's economy before thinking about a hockey team. Companies, jobs, and people are leaving, and that's not an "opinion". And it's not just young working people, Connecticut is rated as one of the worst states for retirees, based on high taxes and the high cost of living. Until the state is made to be more economically attractive, we'll have to make do with the WolfPack, SoundTigers, and the college teams. The NHL isn't going to put a team in an economic disaster area like Connecticut.
  37. 2 points
    This is why the "secret potential investors" to bring an NHL team here are still secret. We can't set a budget, Hartford is on the verge of bankruptcy and businesses are moving headquarters out of Hartford because it's young professionals prefer to live in Boston or New York. Forget any pipe dream of the NHL returning i just really hope our state can get through the growing pains it has now and out the gutter. Then maybe 50 years from now my **ture grandchildren can pitch the NHL to come to Hartford.
  38. 2 points
    14,500 or so for XL but after Renovations(several years) they want the capacity to be 18500-19k. XL had plans to gain seats but not to be bigger than most NHL arenas
  39. 2 points
    I think there would be interest from teams to come here if the Pack left. There ARE positives. The new ice plant/dasherboards/gl***** is definitely one, the size of the market is another, and the fairly easy travel to most games is a third. I understand the 170K people, I understand it's better for a pro team to be here...I get all of that. But, there is no hiding the fact the state loses money on the WolfPack. And 170K people could magically turn into 220K people with a neutral affiliate. But until the state realizes this and kicks the Pack to the curb where they belong, we'll never know how much better it could be.
  40. 2 points
    I will say that as a Rangers fan the results are a little nice to see
  41. 2 points
  42. 2 points
    Ricky is a true, unbiased Hartford hockey fan who doesn't go around spreading bull**** rumors unlike your fat@$$.
  43. 2 points
    This was on the Jumbotron at the Goats this past weekend.
  44. 2 points
    This argument is so juvenile. It's not rocket science guys, every baseball park in the country announces a sell out as long as they have a ticket sold for every seat in the house. That NEVER means every ticket sold actually came to the game. When MLB parks announce sell-outs, the attendance number always varies as those two terms do not mean the same thing. **rthermore, when you are looking at empty seats, you have to account for the hundreds if not thousands of people in the concourse getting concessions, sitting at the bar, and using the facilities. On a hot day in July for example, you will see a lot of fans not in their seats as they seek shaded areas of the park. Typically the nicer the park's amenities, the less fans actually sit in their *****igned section. I never sat in my seat at the NB stadium the last 4 times I went as there was no need to. The Sam Adams roof top bar had a nicer view and a short line for more beer.
  45. 2 points
    Also this has, once again, turned into a stupid conversation. The point, I believe, OP was trying to make is that there is a desire to get the NHL back in Connecticut. However, we are lacking a legitimate organized movement. Morale in the state is at an all time low, the state is bankrupting itself with decades of un**nded mandates, and the City of Hartford can't get out of its own way which causes people to pile on the cynicism. And who could blame them! Hartford could barely get this ball park built. Only a few short months ago the president of the Eastern League threatened to take the team away because construction was shoddy and slow. This is also the same city that couldn't even revamp a high school football stadium with new bleachers and ADA compliant ramps for a division 2 pro soccer team, and it wasn't long ago that the state had to take over Hartford Public Schools. The city can't get anything done. The state can't get anything done. People are leaving the state, people can't afford to live here. So I understand why the Whalers aren't even on most people's radars of concern. I've only lived in Connecticut my entire life in New Haven County, and four years up in Storrs, and the thing we do best here is whine. I don't know if its any different in other parts of the country or even New England for that matter. But all of these people on this forum, Facebook, and Twitter who do nothing but call Malloy a POS and say what an aw**l place Connecticut is are part of the problem. In fact I'll even say aside from the un**nded mandates, are the biggest problem we face as a state. We lack identity because we don't want one, we lack progress because we do not want to pursue it, we lack any sort of ambition to change anything. We are the land of steady habits, we are addicted to complaining behind a key board and at the water cooler. We are so miserable that our flagship college basketball team won two national championships this decade and we have the gall to say the program is falling apart because we had a couple bad seasons. I believe overhauling the Civic Center and attempting to bring the NHL back is a good cause that would be a moral victory that could potentially lead to a, more important, economic victory. But that will take a gr***** roots effort of p*****ionate people. What the Whaler Guys do is great but we have to do more. Was anyone at Whalers Weekend at DDP getting people to sign up to volunteer efforts for lobbying, writing letters to local corporations, calling out the media, calling their local state reps and senators? Was anyone encouraging those guys wearing the Bring Back the NHL shirts to walk around their neighborhoods and talk it up with their neighbors? Or were we just retweeting and starting a meme war with some guys who love watching you scramble to defend yourselves? This isn't going to just come to us because we deserve it. We have to SHOW we deserve it! That does not only mean going to Wolfpack games or UConn hockey games, it means starting an actual movement. It will be hard but if you we want it we have to fight for it! If we don't get the **nding for the Civic Center in this year's budget, we have to plan ASAFP for supporting the cause in the next budgetary session. Showing up to the St. Patrick's Day parade with 15 people won't cut it. I know I'm down here in New Haven and I may not see all the efforts you guys in the booster club or the Whaler Guys actually put forth. All I can say is what I see and from down here it looks weak.
  46. 2 points
    Huge concrete pour tomorrow for the XL ice sheet. Miles and miles of piping has been put in and set up. Now with NHL ready ice Hartford has much more bargaining power. Because they have an arena now that can be used while updated over next three Summers. Well looks like were getting a little closer to getting our team back True Hartford Hockey Fan. Good news!
  47. 2 points
    This whole thing about this being the Wolf Pack's last season is getting old. I'll believe it when I see it but until then all the confirmed information seem's to be about as accurate as CNN.
  48. 2 points
    What does this have to do with the Pack? This is what I'm talking about. You find every opportunity to crap on the Wolf Pack. Also, the Pack have brought in plenty of former Whalers and they didn't charge people $100 to meet them. Heck, the Wolf Pack brought in guys from the 1980 USA Hockey team for a luncheon and they didn't charge $100. What I'd like to know is how much of this is going to the players and how much is going to charity? Like the golf tournament, they're asking way to much and there has to be a reason for it.
  49. 2 points
    Now, will you look at that. A civil discussion with two people that have differing opinions. It's amazing what can happen when people can actually talk with out getting hurt by words.
  50. 2 points
    Saw the poll, and I thought it was hilarious that most of the people responding think this is stupid and a waste of money and time. Heard it had to be hidden in a transportation bill just to get through the vote. That's just sad.