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Whalevolution

East Hartford is the Best place for 3rd Casino

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http://easthartfordcasino.com/

 

30% tax on slots 5% more than the tribes

15% tax on gaming tables 15% more than tribes

 

And it would **nd the XL with an extremely less burden on the Tax payer. The

 

P4277's Chads dads and Wills will even agree it's a better plan.

I could see Top Cat making his way down for weekend of this with an NHL team too.

 

It will be Generating desperately needed tax dollars to the tune of 90m annually.

 

 

And wait till you see what the Raddison is going to look like as it draws M***** and NY drivers from the smallest biggest intersection (91/84) between Boston and NYC.

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It could be greatest plan in the world, but it isn't Tony Ravosa and Silver lane Partners call. Tony Ravosa has to get Mashantucket Pequot tribe, Mohegan tribe, and state of Ct government officials to buy into his idea of a 3rd casino located in East Hartford. If any part of that trio doesn't come around to Tony Ravosa's idea for East Hartford casino, Ravosa's idea is DOA. If any part of that trio doesn't come around to Ravosa's East Hartford casino idea, Silver Lane Partners' press releases are all empty words and easthartfordcasino.com website is nothing but pretty pictures. Ravosa isn't going to own and operate a 3rd Ct casino. Tony Ravosa isn't member of Ct state government. Ravosa isn't going to own and operate Hartford Raddison hotel. So, Ravosa can put out all the press releases he wants about educational partnerships between the tribes and Goodwin college. About Ctfastrak stations being built next to east Hartford casino. About linkage between Raddison Hartford and East hartford casino. About linkage between XL center and Dunkin Donuts park and Ct Convention Center and Rentschler Field and East hartford casino. About gaming tax hikes **nding Xl Center renovations and a UConn culinary arts and hospitality school at Hastings hotel. It is all just Tony Ravosa throwing crap at the wall and seeing if any of it sticks. He's been putting out press releases about his idea for a casino in East hartford for a year and a half and it hasn't gotten him or his idea anywhere. He is still on the outside looking in.

Plus, while I like Ravosa's idea to get the Mashantucket Pequot and Mohegan tribes to help foot the bill for renovating the XL center. I just don't see them saying yes to an increase in taxes on gaming revenue without putting up a fight.

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You hit on every topic, Chad.

You know this topic well.

 

It's clearly the best choice in my opinion but yes time is quickly running out.

 

Too bad, Ravosa's Father was the General Manager of the Springfield Civic Center and brokered the deal with Howard Baldwin to bring the Whalers to Springy after the collapse.

 

He was a big Whaler season ticket holder and now is a big UConn Booster.

 

His proposal makes a good job market for Hartford. I would think Hartford and EH unemployment rate would benefit better then East Windsor Broadbrook

 

But it's fourth and ten and I haven't seen much support.

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Definitely very frustrating, Whalevolution. For at least a year and a half Tony Ravosa has been turning out press releases about all the reasons he and consultants he hired believe a casino in East Hartford would be a great deal for State of Ct. But even after all of that time the idea still doesn't seem to have gotten much support at all. Falling on deaf ears.

Obviously Mashantucket Pequot and Mohegan tribes don't seem to want anything to do with East Hartford casino, because they prefer East Windsor. The tribes believe someplace north of Hartford will be more likely to keep gamblers most likely to go to MGM Springfield from leaving state of Ct. Tribes also believe someplace north of Hartford will have less impact on their casinos in southeastern Ct.

But it also does not seem to have gotten much of anywhere with Ct politician either.

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You know, I wonder if Tony Ravosa's history in the Springfield and M*****achusetts political world and his connections to Springfield and M*****achusetts political world rub some people on Ct political scene the wrong way? And I wonder if that hurts his idea for East Hartford casino from getting traction and support from Ct politicians? I believe he lives in South Glastonbury and that his business is based in Glastonbury, but I wonder if there are politicians here in Ct that question his "loyalty" because he's originally a "M*****achusetts guy"? I would hope not. But you have to wonder.

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Yes right again

 

He is in Glastonbury

 

Plausible on the. Ias never thought of it

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Myself being a Boston and M*****achusetts guy (what happened at Fenway was disgrace**l) who has on occasion attempted to get CT suburban people to see reason they do not wish to understand while myself being guilty of elitist background, I'd have to agree with Chad that Ravosa being from M***** (a place half of CT never ever goes to) does NOT HELP in his quest to put the casino in East Hartford with it's taxes helping the XL renovations. It's just a fact, people like those similar to them.

 

Now on the other end, the state is another 200 million in the hole every day and a half...I understand that. It's all well and good. It's not going to magically get better in Hartford or CT just because they cut everything to bone and suddenly have no arena. I *****ure you that approach is a terrible idea.

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If the Indians get their 3rd casino, it's going to be in East Windsor. The paperwork is already signed.

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Pretty sure they will get it and the location is already decided

 

But theEast Hartford plan was way better for Hartford, for the XL and for the return of the Whalers

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With the deficit seemingly growing by the minute, they might decide to just blow the whole state open for anybody, as long as there is a piece of the pie for the state. Meaning the Indians could have their casino in East Windsor...and Rivosa's group could have their casino in East Windsor.

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I think that's his last move if EW does get the Casino.

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I meant East Hartford for Rivosa's casino. Not East Windsor. Doy. Brain fart....

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Problem then becomes that we end up "killing goose that laid the golden egg". Ct with 4 casinos might see short term bump in $$$ being brought in. But eventually 4 casinos in Ct would all probably just cannibalize business from each other and they'd all sort of limp along and combined pull in what Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun used to make. And that's not even considering competition from MGM Springfield and Wynn casino near Boston and First Light in Taunton and Twin River in RI and "racinos" in Yonkers and Queens. Ct isn't draw that Vegas is. I don't even buy that casino in East Hartford would help drive biz to XL center or Dunkin Donuts park or Radisson Hartford. Casinos don't want customers leaving casino because then casino can't make $$$ off of them. Even putting casino customers on shuttle bus and driving them from East hartford to downtown Hartford cuts into amount of $$$ casino can make. Time sitting on a shuttle is time that isn't being spent gambling or buying drinks or eating food or watching shows at casino. That's why casino owners & operators build restaurants and bars and clubs and performance spaces inside casinos. They want to keep customers captive and near gaming. Now if casino owner or operator built casino in downtown Hartford, then either bought the XL center or became manager of Xl center for state of Ct and city of Hartford, and then tied casino directly into Xl center. That might work. Mashantucket Pequot and Mohegan tribes and Ravosa will tell state of Ct and city of Hartford what they want to hear about new casinos wanting to help the Xl center and other downtown businesses, but that is just because they think that it will get state and city politicians to give them what they want. Unless the tribes or Ravosa can make $$$ off of Xl Center by owning or managing it, I just don't think they really care about helping downtown Hartford. They are just out to line their own pockets by running their casinos.

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"I just don't think they really care about helping downtown Hartford. They are just out to line their own pockets by running their casinos."

 

Hard to dispute this. Only thing I'd add to it is what if the state made a deal about giving Rivosa and/or the Indians first opportunity for a casino in downtown Hartford? That might be enough of a temptation to convince Rivosa and/or the Indians to make a deal.

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If a casino does not have an attached arena like Mohegan and the Springfield one having access to the M***** Mutual Center it will fail and or be in last place to the competition. Old people get older and younger people are going to concerts they aren't pissing away money at a Casino at the same rate. That is why mohegans model is working the best of all the Casinos. They get both old and young non gamblers to shows. Why people cannot see that in Hartford Country is beyond me.

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