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New Houston Rockets owner wants NHL team

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New owner of Houston Rockets is a guy named Tilman Fertitta. At press conference yesterday, he said he is looking into bringing Nhl team team to Houston to share Toyota Center with the Rockets.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/new-rockets-owner-interested-bringing-nhl-team-houston/

One of my college room mates was from Houston, so I called him about this. He said that at the press conference the Rockets CEO said that he had been in touch with Larry Tanenbaum of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment. Tanenbaum is on board of governors of both Nhl and Nba. CEO of Rockets said that Tanenbaum is very excited to meet Fertitta and talk about possibilities for Houston team in the Nhl.

As Bart Simpson would say, "Ay caramba!"
I will be ticked off if we end up seeing Arizona Coyotes move to Toyota Center in Houston, Carolina Hurricanes move to Videotron centre in Quebec City, and Seattle get Nhl expansion team when Key Center finally gets renovated.  

     

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The NHL would never consider Houston, Houston is a mix of Southern NRA Culture and Mexican Culture, hockey would flop in Houston worse than it did in Atlanta.  The people of Houston have no desire to host the NHL.  If we learned anything from the floods in Houston last month, it is that Houston has no leadership and that most people in Houston are so dumb that they are unable to get in their car and drive 30 miles more inland to seek shelter, the idiots just sat in their homes watching NASCAR while the water levels rose in their house, Southerners are on average 30 IQ points dumber than the rest of the country.

I have heard from many sources in the know, that Hartford is the next city to get the NHL, Hartford has a new ice sheet designed by NHL appointed hockey architects, Hartford has a hockey fan base, and Hartford has rich investors waiting to pump money into a hockey organization, and Hartford has a mayor and Governor who are in talks with these investors and who have recently written letters to other NHL organizations requesting them to move here.

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Lol people in the know? Good sources.

 

The NHL is in love with putting teams in really dumb areas. They'd put one in the Sarhara Desert if they could. Too stupid to **nction. That's why I think Houston gets a team if they want it. Plus they'd be a western conference.

If the XL got renovated I'd say we would be next up. And if a budget... any freaking budget wtf are they doing.... got approved.

I think if Amazon chose Hartford we'd get one like now. They said they'd invest 5 billion (with a B) in the city they move to. That's insane (didn't specify over how many years. Also just read that in an article can't speak for how factual it really is).

 

 

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Houston is the fourth largest city in the United States, and by far the largest without an NHL team.  They already have a suitable arena, so if they have a viable owner, they are at the top of the list for an NHL team.  It doesn't hurt that they would be in the Western Conference and have a natural rivalry with Dallas.  It's true that a lot of the people in the area are not natural hockey fans, but the sheer numbers will attract a team, IMO.  They only need a small percentage of that large population to support a team.  And they won't have nearby teams with fans in their area like Boston and New York have in Hartford.

Getting Amazon would be a huge boost for Hartford and the state.  Realistically, what are the chances it will happen? 

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If hockey can work in Dallas and Nashville it can work in Houston. As a matter of fact Hockey in Houston would fair better than Arizona. I was in Houston last year and the city limits contains one of the most diverse populations of any city i have been to. In the actual City limits some people don't even have southern accents. The city is also **ll of colleges that offer the young target market of millenials (something Hartford doesn't have). The **nny thing is here is a rich power**l owner who actually wants a team in Houston but no rich power**l owner has talked about Hartford in real life.

Now a team would have to be halfway decent to draw well. But when southern hockey teams do well fans support them see Dallas and Nashville. Not to mention Houston is just a bigger Dallas 3 hours south. At least Houston has a state of the art arena and Texas has a budget.

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You can't discount Houston if the new Rockets/Toyota Center owner is serious about the NHL.  There are several franchises up for grabs, as we know.

The real question is...is the NHL serious about Houston?  And...why wouldn't the NHL want Houston to pony up $500M to expand, as opposed to a relocation?

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7 hours ago, MarkH2919 said:

The real question is...is the NHL serious about Houston?  And...why wouldn't the NHL want Houston to pony up $500M to expand, as opposed to a relocation?

Well my college roommate told me that at Houston Rockets press conference this week the team CEO Tad Brown said that Larry Tanenbaum of Maple Leaf sports and Entertainment is excited to meet with Rockets new owner Tilman Fertitta and talk about the NHL's interest in Houston and NHL's position on having a team in Houston and the things that could possibly happen with NHL in Houston. Tanenbaum is chairman of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment that owns the NHL Maple Leafs and NBA Raptors and MLS Toronto FC. And Tanenbaum is on the board of governors for NHL and NBA and MLS. I think he also owns the CFL Toronto Argonauts and is on the CFL board of governors. So he would be a pretty important guy to have in your corner if you want NHL team. Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs is another important NHL owner who has been talking about how he would love to see a NHL team in Houston for a couple of years now. At Bruins media day last week Jacobs mentioned Houston and Seattle as interesting markets for the NHL to get into. Jacobs is also influential owner in NHL. How many other NHL owners agree with Tanenbaum and Jacobs? I guess we'll see.

I am sure NHL would always want teams to pony up $500M for expansion instead of a team paying a lower relocation fee. But if team in market like Arizona or Carolina is a problem for the NHL that needs a quick solution and Fertitta in Houston says he wants an NHL team and has a state of art arena like Toyota Center ready to go, will NHL be in a position to turn Houston down? I mean people are always saying that Hartford can be a quick solution to an NHL problem, so why wouldn't NHL accept Houston as quick solution to an NHL problem? Especially if Ct state budget problem ends up costing Malloy the money he wants for XL Center renovation?

The good thing is that the NHL isn't going to up and move a team mid way through a season, so it isn't like a team is moving to Houston tomorrow. But, Houston is still ready to go with a state of the art arena and owner who is enthusiastic about bring NHL to Houston. Makes me nervous. More competition.                

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12 hours ago, MarkH2919 said:

You can't discount Houston if the new Rockets/Toyota Center owner is serious about the NHL.  There are several franchises up for grabs, as we know.

The real question is...is the NHL serious about Houston?  And...why wouldn't the NHL want Houston to pony up $500M to expand, as opposed to a relocation?

They have a new arena and an owner who publicly discussed an interest in the NHL. Much more than any invisible Hartford ownership group. Maybe it is just talk to talk but still much more than anything we have here lol.

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HARTFORD vs. HOUSTON:

Hartford has an NHL Arena, which has previously hosted years of NHL games, and has a new ice sheet designed by NHL selected architects.

Hartford has a hand**l of investors waiting to own an NHL team.

Hartford has a hockey market, has a hockey fan base, and has a Governor and Mayor who have shown their interest in getting an NHL team in writing.

 

Houston has a Basketball arena, NOT a hockey arena, Houston has never hosted an NHL game.

Houston has one guy who said he might want a hockey team, Houston does NOT have a hand**l of investors.

Houston does NOT have a hockey market, and the Texas governor and Houston mayor have shown no interest in getting a team, and from news about the hurricane - the Governor and Mayor down there do not communicate and do not get along.

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4 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

Hartford has an NHL Arena, which has previously hosted years of NHL games, and has a new ice sheet designed by NHL selected architects.

No we don't. Our arena needs $250 million in upgrades to be considered "NHL ready".

4 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

Hartford has a hand**l of investors waiting to own an NHL team.

There's no proof of this and nothing you can say is going to change that without someone with actual money stepping forward and saying that they have billions and are willing to spend it on this idea.

4 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

Hartford has a hockey market, has a hockey fan base, and has a Governor and Mayor who have shown their interest in getting an NHL team in writing.

What market is that? The 4000 that go to UConn hockey games, the 4000 that go to Wolf Pack games, the 50 or so members of the booster club that brags about signing newborns and infants to inflate their numbers, or the "Knowledge Corridor" that would never support an arena in Hartford? The "KC" doesn't give a crap about making Hartford better because no one from Vermont, New Hampshire, or even Northern M***** is going to be fans of a team in Hartford.

4 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

Houston has a Basketball arena, NOT a hockey arena, Houston has never hosted an NHL game.

Yeah, they don't have a hockey arena at all.Image result for Toyota Center hockey

You seem to forget that Gordie Howe and his son's played here before they came to Hartford. Also, they have held preseason NHL games, and they were the home of WHA and AHL teams.

4 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

Houston has one guy who said he might want a hockey team, Houston does NOT have a hand**l of investors.

It doesn't need a hand**l of investors because that "one guy" is a billionaire and controls billions of dollars that he invests in his casinos, hotels, restaurants, amusement parks, aquariums, and sports teams. He also gives money to charities and community services.

 

4 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

Houston does NOT have a hockey market, and the Texas governor and Houston mayor have shown no interest in getting a team, and from news about the hurricane - the Governor and Mayor down there do not communicate and do not get along.

He doesn't need the Mayor or Governor to get along or want a NHL if he's paying for everything.

 

It's **nny how easy it was to discredit everything you said as "fact", you should be used to that by now. So, stay in Jersey and keep your mouth shut.

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And do yourself a favor and take down that pic you have because #1 your no whaler fan ever and #2 gernander should not even be on the ice with the legend 

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3 hours ago, jerseydiehardwhaler said:

I didn’t post that loser, and you just keep posting your true colors fake ***** liar 

Sorry, silly post and just *****umed.

 

3 hours ago, jerseydiehardwhaler said:

And do yourself a favor and take down that pic you have because #1 your no whaler fan ever and #2 gernander should not even be on the ice with the legend 

Am a Whalers fan and Gordie Howe called Gernander and legend and Mr Hartford Hockey. So, you're going against Gordie by trashing Gernander. So, even though is said it to the wrong person I'm going to repeat myself, stay in Jersey and keep your mouth shut.

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Please with gernanee the career Ahler who couldn’t be make it with the big boys.. and stop with the nonsense that you were a Whalers fan biggie.. your posts say it all.. and me being from jersey has no bearing whatsoever with anything at all, I love connecticut, love Hartford and am pro Hartford.. I am and always will be a Hartford Whalers fan.. yourself, you will go down as a liar troll..proof is on the posts and more people are realizing..

and im pretty sure it was you who discredited how to be on the Hartford mt Rushmore, hmmm talk out of the side of your ***** much

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20 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

HARTFORD vs. HOUSTON:

Hartford has an NHL Arena, which has previously hosted years of NHL games, and has a new ice sheet designed by NHL selected architects.

Hartford has a hand**l of investors waiting to own an NHL team.

Hartford has a hockey market, has a hockey fan base, and has a Governor and Mayor who have shown their interest in getting an NHL team in writing.

 

Houston has a Basketball arena, NOT a hockey arena, Houston has never hosted an NHL game.

Houston has one guy who said he might want a hockey team, Houston does NOT have a hand**l of investors.

Houston does NOT have a hockey market, and the Texas governor and Houston mayor have shown no interest in getting a team, and from news about the hurricane - the Governor and Mayor down there do not communicate and do not get along.

Please tell me the names and or public comments of these rumored investors in Hartford. I would love to tell them to put their money where their invisible mouths are to save the XL and or help a new arena be built. Also the toyota center has had hockey games and looks 10 times nicer than the XL. Can you imagine that a city invested in building a new arena before it was too late!

Not to mention Hartford is losing hockey fans every month who are selling their CT property and Houston actually has an influx of Northerners. I know a few people that have moved down there in recent years.

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33 minutes ago, Monizzle145 said:

1) Please tell me the names and or public comments of these rumored investors in Hartford. I would love to tell them to put their money where their invisible mouths are to save the XL and or help a new arena be built. Also the toyota center has had hockey games and looks 10 times nicer than the XL. Can you imagine that a city invested in building a new arena before it was too late!

2) Not to mention Hartford is losing hockey fans every month who are selling their CT property and Houston actually has an influx of Northerners. I know a few people that have moved down there in recent years.

 

1)  The Governor and Mayor of Hartford have noted numerous times, both in press conferences and in writing to the NHL, that Hartford has numerous rich investors lined up, this has also been reported on by the Whaler Guys on their Cable TV program, there are a few very rich guys in the Hartford area who are intent on bringing the NHL to Hartford.

2)  Hartford is gaining hockey fans every month, the NHL fan base and TV market is expanding.  As for people selling their CT property, for every seller - there has to be a buyer, there are not rows of abandoned homes anywhere in central Connecticut, for every seller - there is a buyer.  The population of Connecticut is not declining, it is growing.

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4 minutes ago, WhalerCentral said:

 

1)  The Governor and Mayor of Hartford have noted numerous times, both in press conferences and in writing to the NHL, that Hartford has numerous rich investors lined up, this has also been reported on by the Whaler Guys on their Cable TV program, there are a few very rich guys in the Hartford area who are intent on bringing the NHL to Hartford.

2)  Hartford is gaining hockey fans every month, the NHL fan base and TV market is expanding.  As for people selling their CT property, for every seller - there has to be a buyer, there are not rows of abandoned homes anywhere in central Connecticut, for every seller - there is a buyer.  The population of Connecticut is not declining, it is growing.

The Mayor and Governor are both in situations where city and state budgets are in peril and cannot **nd a new arena **lly at the moment. Those "reported" rich guys have not spoke up or put any money up period. Who is paying the expansion fee? Who is buying the team. who is going to **nd an arena restoration project to get an arena looking like the toyota center or better.

The amount of hockey fans in this market is not growing. Youth hockey numbers are down. The younger demographic of 20 somethings and 30 somethings are declining in the state. Towns that use to be **ll of hockey fans are now combining with other towns to field a high school team.

An above all these factors there are more Eastern Conference teams than they are western conference teams.Tell one of these rich guys with money to show their face and put capitol up now in 2017 to help the cause in Hartford. The NHL most likely wont go to Houston but at least someone with money spoke in public and expressed interest.

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6 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

1)  The Governor and Mayor of Hartford have noted numerous times, both in press conferences and in writing to the NHL, that Hartford has numerous rich investors lined up, this has also been reported on by the Whaler Guys on their Cable TV program, there are a few very rich guys in the Hartford area who are intent on bringing the NHL to Hartford.

There's no proof at all, and a public access show has no backing whatsoever. Anyone can make one of those, for free. There aren't any rich people working to bring a team to Hartford. We know about every other investor in every other city that wants an NHL team, except for Hartford.

6 hours ago, WhalerCentral said:

2)  Hartford is gaining hockey fans every month, the NHL fan base and TV market is expanding.  As for people selling their CT property, for every seller - there has to be a buyer, there are not rows of abandoned homes anywhere in central Connecticut, for every seller - there is a buyer.  The population of Connecticut is not declining, it is growing.

UConn lost 1000 fans just last year, and the population is dropping. There's even proof of that.

https://ctmirror.org/2017/09/29/ct-school-population-shrinking-at-faster-rate-than-in-48-states/

http://www.yankeeinstitute.org/2017/06/connecticuts-slow-income-growth-tied-to-population-decline/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448355/connecticut-businesses-population-are-fleeing-state

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Litchfield-County-struggles-with-population-11075341.php

There are houses and apartments all over the state that have been on the market for years. So, "for every seller - there has to be a buyer" is complete bull and you know it, or just maybe you have no f-ing clue because you're in Jersey. Seriously, shut up and bury your head in your ugly cakes in Jersey, because you have no clue what the heck is going on here.

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Wow great comeback, I probably know more than you on what’s happening there biggie..and you upset cause you didn’t get a peice fakewhalerfan.. get a life and come up with a new line other than in from jersey.. lair loser

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I would kill to have a pro team back in Connecticut and like i have always said i would sign up day 1 for a season ticket plan. But the reality is this state is a pit stop for most people and as quickly as people come they tend to leave. Again i am in my late 20's and am seeing the next generation of adults mostly leave the state. From my church and hometown and current town I have seen many new families and single adults move into the state for grad school or for a nice paying job. Many within a few years take experience from ESPN or Aetna or Pratt and Whitney and move to a different state. The for sale signs right now across the state are crazy.

And when it comes to true movements with sports shifting ownership groups pre move/expansion are active putting money up and taking in public to politicians. That is not happening in Hartford. It needs to and i would love to have a Q&A and or public forum to talk to these make believe rich guys to tell them how they can help change the tide. Vegas got a new arena that was hockey friendly (unlike MGM) and someone put up the expansion fee. Seattle while not success**l had a public ownership group that was exploring hockey and basketball coming back. Quebec city built a new arena even though there was no promise of a pro team. All we have right now is broken budgets and Malloy (on his way out) and Bronin (mayor of a city near bankrupcy).

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33 minutes ago, CaptainBrambles said:

I don't see where the money for any of this is going to come from

The billionaires that no one has seen or heard from other than Malloy. Haven't you been listening to his lemmings?

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10 hours ago, CaptainBrambles said:

I don't see where the money for any of this is going to come from

It’s spread over 3 years so hope**lly they. An squeeze or in.. doing nothing is not an option either, that will have a reverse effect on Hartford.. dd park has a great debut so maybe they can continue the momentum.. the good news is they are still negotiating.

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Uh....reduced to what?  Reduced is better than cut, which is what the GOP had originally proposed.

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