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Even if his stories were true (which they aren't) I wouldn't feel bad for him at all..... It's sports, looking for a peace**l, quit night? Go throw on some pillow talk and knit a Wolfpack Sweater

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PlainvilleWhale wrote:

> Even if his stories were true (which they aren't) I wouldn't feel bad for

> him at all..... It's sports, looking for a peace**l, quit night? Go throw

> on some pillow talk and knit a Wolfpack Sweater

 

" looking for a peace**l, quit night?" ........ or go to a weeknight Wolf Pack game!

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Whalers4Ever wrote:

> PlainvilleWhale wrote:

> > Even if his stories were true (which they aren't) I wouldn't feel bad for

> > him at all..... It's sports, looking for a peace**l, quit night? Go throw

> > on some pillow talk and knit a Wolfpack Sweater

>

> " looking for a peace**l, quit night?" ........ or go to a weeknight Wolf

> Pack game!

 

 

Post of the night! Kudos Sir!

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Jeez, I take one day off from reading on this board and another bar fight erupts. C'mon guys, can't we all get along?

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Oh, I actually just read this guy's article and he is spot on, it's the fan base that's killing our chances for an NHL team. This entire thread is a cl*****ic example of the point he's trying to make, Whalers fans bashing in the brains of WolfPack fans and vice versa. We need the fan support or hockey will die in Hartford, period.

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Biggie1083 wrote:

> Hey, TC, the guy who wrote this is one of the Whalers fans that called my

> little sister a *****, and spit on Wolf Pack fans at games. He's been

> kicked out of Bridgeport, Hartford, and Springfield on multiple occasions

> for swearing at kids and fight with fans.

 

 

 

Is there even a shred of proof of any of those wild accusations being truth**l, or is it just more of the same crap from Biggie where he goes around bashing people. I am starting to wonder if you even have a sister, if you mention you were at a certain place at any time during the past 20 years within a 50-mile range of Hartford, Biggie will chime in and say how his sister was there at that very moment and how someone disrespected her, nobody here is buying your crap anymore, either you and your sister are traveling around Connecticut looking for trouble or else all of your stories are fictitious. I cannot wait until the Wolf Crap are thrown out of Hartford.

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Speaking objectively, I don't think the state government thinks about/understands hockey to the depth of the level that we discuss it at or *****ume they should at least understand. The more I think about it, I realize that in a way the state is consistent in their small-time, somewhat negative view of what is possible here. Cases in point: Whalers leave in 97. State government is somewhat relieved they don't have to pay save the Whalers and brings in the Rangers who they see as stable and who will pay their bills, run the place, and minimize any state expenses. I would argue their pattern of behavior is exactly the same once WSE was forced out. They see the Rangers as stable, pay their bills on time, and limit state exposure. No huge long-term commitments required.

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Whalers4Ever wrote:

"Hartford Hockey can and will be saved when the affiliation change happens. Until then we just tread water and try to stay a float. I'm actually getting sick of people saying we HAVE to support what we have, that's just ridiculous. Even though I choose to support the current manifestation of the Wolf Pack, by no means do I actually HAVE to do so. It's my money and I will decide if it's worth the expense. There will be hockey in Hartford after the Rangers leave, no doubt in my mind. The only people pushing the notion that Hartford will have nothing in a post Rangers world are Rangers fans who don't want their farm team to leave. They are in the small minority."

 

I haven't read past this yet, so I don't yet know which way this thread ended up going. But...

 

This is the most fantastic, fairly-written post I've seen in a while. It's exactly right. Great job.

 

And as with anyone who decides to buy tickets for this season, enjoy the games!

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p4277 wrote:

The writer is *****uming that everyone is concerned about hockey in Hartford. Yet he makes it clear that this is not the case. Whaler fans don't care about the WolfPack, and if they left, most would say, "good riddance to bad rubbish'. And I question how many would really care if another minor-league team came in to replace the WP. Are they really going to support the baby Predators or baby Devils better than the baby Rangers? I doubt it, it's still the AHL. Whaler fans want 'their team' back, and that means the Hartford Whalers in the NHL. Ranger/Pack fans have been hostile and arrogant about their team being here. Based on the comments on this board, I certainly have no desire to spend my time and money going to Hartford to be with people like this. Will they follow another AHL team if/when the WP leaves? Again, I doubt it. How many of these dedicated fans will go to Bridgeport to support their team if they move there? Yes, hockey in Hartford is in tough shape. But I disagree that it's entirely the fault of the fans. Connecticut politicians were largely at fault for putting the Whalers in the hands of an owner who wanted to move the team. Then they immediately moved in an affiliate of a team that a lot of fans hated. Are the fans to be blamed for not wanting the product placed in front of them? Are the fans supposed to buy tickets to a team they don't like just to support Hartford hockey? That's insane. I haven't been to a game in Hartford since the Whalers left. If no team were to replace the WolfPack, it wouldn't make one bit of difference in my life."

 

This thread is like Christmas. I'm not even past the first page yet & it's been mostly excellent posts. Good job, all.

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WhalePack wrote:

"Just wait until you get to mine!"

 

I just did. Sigh.

 

Well, I will say WhalePack that you are sincerely entitled to your opinion, regardless of how correct or incorrect others think it may be.

 

Otherwise, this might very much be the Thread of the Year. There's been more truth & common sense posted on this one thread than any ten threads I can remember reading combined.

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Thanks WhaleGuy123, we're trying!

 

HYMH, well, it would be nice if we all could pull in the same direction for the return of the NHL and although you don't agree the fans are a major factor of the problem... and they are key to the solution. We just need to figure out how!

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WhalePack wrote:

"Well, it would be nice if we all could pull in the same direction for the return of the NHL and although you don't agree the fans are a major factor of the problem... and they are key to the solution. We just need to figure out how!"

 

I can't agree with you, here. The fans of Hartford have been uninterruptedly screwed from the time the Whalers were sold. Nearly every single decision made since has been in opposition to what the market's fans, its customers, wanted. Calling the fans "a major factor of the problem" is way off base, IMO.

 

Fans are customers. Let's say you watch the same guy go into a restaurant & order a burger, & they bring him spaghetti. He orders a Sprite, & they bring him coffee. He asks for french fries & they bring him a side salad. They do this day after day, year after year & when he asks why, they say "ST**, you'll get what we bring you & damn well like it."

 

Then one day, you walk over to this customer & tell him he's ungrate**l & a major part of the problem because he didn't accept their complete disregard of his orders while completely disrespecting him. Finally, he does what he should've done in the first place; take his business elsewhere. Look around; people are finally starting to realize the stupidity of this.

 

The reasoning you use for always putting Hartford's situation on the fans honestly escapes me.

 

I'm not even thinking NHL right now. At the moment, I'd be happy with an AHL team that doesn't treat me & my city like they would the inside of a septic tank.

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You know I am on the same page as you about hating the Rangers HYMH, but at some point, it's better to regroup and fight another day. Boycotting won't get the NHL back, but it may convince the state that the AHL and ultimately a new arena in Hartford aren't viable. They spent half that last article hemming and hawing about relatively small investment.

 

And they will go on simple attendance numbers and not understand that the paid attendance on Friday of 426 is affiliation related, not general lack of interest. It's pain**l to do, trust me bro, I know all about it.

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IDK if hockey interest are the deciding factor in the state building a new arena unless of course the NHL was coming. Even if hockey didn't exist it would be beyond dumb for Hartford not to push for a new arena.... unless they're fine with losing all of their business to a casino in the middle of a forest.

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Whaer4ever How could anyone even think in 1997 that allowing (or agreeing to) the Rangers farm team in Hartford would be well received and/or supported by Whalers fans? Fans deciding to infight is dumb? What choice was there? Acceptance? Complacency? The state with their decision 16 years ago forced this situation upon us and they continue to fan the flames with current decisions that they have made.

 

I agree the state made a bad choice, their hands were tied this last time due to NHL territorial rights. It was Rangers or no hockey and that wouldn't have been good for Hartford at all.

 

And Yes fan infighting is very dumb. If you disagree please explain to me what great things you have accomplished by fan infighting? There isn't any other than to fan the flames of typical Ranger hate.

 

Options? Yes if you don't like the product don't go. What else is their to do?

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Whaleofatime wrote:

> Whalevolution wrote:

> > Sure there is always a chain of events a confluence of cir*****stances but

> > REGARDLESS of those events or choices it was every fans individual choice

> > to infight. The state can't make fans infight only fans can do that.

> >

> > Even though I have participated I still find the infighting beyond DUMB IMO

>

> WOAT. Evo so you think if the Rangers weren't here there would still be this

> "infighting"?

 

I dont think there would be as much but as back*****wards as Hartford Hockey is it wouldnt surprise me at all if the petty infighting found a way to continue. it does here everyday regardless of how dumb it is right?

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TheWhaleGuy123 wrote:

> You know I am on the same page as you about hating the Rangers HYMH, but at

> some point, it's better to regroup and fight another day. Boycotting won't

> get the NHL back, but it may convince the state that the AHL and ultimately

> a new arena in Hartford aren't viable. They spent half that last article

> hemming and hawing about relatively small investment.

>

> And they will go on simple attendance numbers and not understand that the

> paid attendance on Friday of 426 is affiliation related, not general lack

> of interest. It's pain**l to do, trust me bro, I know all about it.

 

Well said!

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Whaleofatime wrote:

> We should ask for his side of the story, it's only fair since Biggie is

> throwing out accusations without the person being able to defend

> themselves. I'm positive it be far different from what Biggie is alleging

> and then we can decide for ourselves.

 

I highly doubt Biggie is lying. After all when a fan gets kicked out of multiple arenas it pretty much punches his dance card for the night. But if he posts I will hear him out.

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Whaleofatime wrote:

> Biggie we didn't boycott Hartford, we boycotted the Rangers. And that's not

> even as bad as the WP fans who turned their backs on the SAME team they

> supported from 97-10 but not when they turned to the Whale, those are the

> true idiots. :lol::lol:

 

That's true I hate those fans that left the same team at least Whaker fans only left because it wasn't the same team

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WhalePack wrote:

> Oh, I actually just read this guy's article and he is spot on, it's the fan

> base that's killing our chances for an NHL team. This entire thread is a

> cl*****ic example of the point he's trying to make, Whalers fans bashing in

> the brains of WolfPack fans and vice versa. We need the fan support or

> hockey will die in Hartford, period.

 

Couldn't agree more and it's totally true. Love posts that just state the obvious and point to a solution.

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TheWhaleGuy123 wrote:

> Speaking objectively, I don't think the state government thinks

> about/understands hockey to the depth of the level that we discuss it at or

> *****ume they should at least understand. The more I think about it, I

> realize that in a way the state is consistent in their small-time, somewhat

> negative view of what is possible here. Cases in point: Whalers leave in

> 97. State government is somewhat relieved they don't have to pay save the

> Whalers and brings in the Rangers who they see as stable and who will pay

> their bills, run the place, and minimize any state expenses. I would argue

> their pattern of behavior is exactly the same once WSE was forced out. They

> see the Rangers as stable, pay their bills on time, and limit state

> exposure. No huge long-term commitments required.

 

The truth! Well said

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The way Biggie is speaking about this I am inclined to believe him. Packfan seems to know the guy as well.

 

You don't have to like their opinions on this particular gentleman but Biggie and PF have something none of us do and that is actual interaction with this person.

 

Judge him for yourselves and not go oppo of what biggie says out of typical Ranger spite.

Also any fans who spit on girls or kids and call them horrible names is someone who should be banned no matter WTF jersey he is wearing.

 

Anyone disagree with that?

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Whalevolution wrote:

"Options? Yes if you don't like the product don't go. What else is their to do?"

 

Yes! This ^ is what I've been saying forever.

 

& if you do want to go, go. Have a good time. I haven't heard anyone who isn't going tell anyone not to go. It's always the other way around; which makes it nice to see this post.

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